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Apache Sim EER value
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:46 pm
by dpk1612
Sir,
Could anyone pls explain what are EER, SEER and SSEER in ApacheSim. i have EER value alone as 3.2. what should be the SEER value and SSEER value???
Re: Apache Sim EER value
Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:40 pm
by RossThompson87
Hi,
EER = Energy Efficiency Ratio. This represents the performance at certain conditions at a certain point in time.
SEER = Seasonal Energy Efficiency Ratio. This represents the performance of the unit over the course of a year/season.
SSEER = System Seasonal Efficiency Ratio. As above but taking into account losses in the system.
As a general rule: EER > SEER > SSEER.
I hope this makes sense. I generally find it very difficult to obtain reliable EER data from manufacturer's. For boilers, seasonal efficiency data is often readily available. For mechanical cooling plant I often see some very optimistic data as testing standards seem to be a bit of a grey area.
Ross
Re: Apache Sim EER value
Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:31 am
by dpk1612
Thank you so much sir,
But it is mentioned that EER applies to UK NCM only. so is it necessary to give that value or no need to give if not using UK NCM???
And also pls let me know by how much % will SEER and SSEER wil be less than EER?
Re: Apache Sim EER value
Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:55 am
by Complex Potential
Hi dpk
Vista will apply the SSEER (derived from the SEER) when converting load to energy and so, in most cases, the EER is not that important as far as the results goes.
There is no standard % difference between EER, SEER and SSEER as it is totally dependant upon the selection of heating/cooling generation equipment and how your system delivers the resultant medium around the building.
To be honest, the method of applying SEERs and SSEERs is pretty crude but will do for basic models. If you want to model the system side properly you have to use HVAC (or another software entiely such as the "T" word that shall not be spoken on these forums

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Re: Apache Sim EER value
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 10:40 am
by PCully
or another software entiely such as the "T" word that shall not be spoken on these forums
k*****n?
Re: Apache Sim EER value
Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:38 pm
by Complex Potential
I believe they prefer to be called, "The Stoney Stratford Crew" or "The Milton Keynes Massive".
Re: Apache Sim EER value
Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 11:05 am
by YD-Ind
Hi,
I want to compare a building using unitary split system (COP=2.5) with VRF System (COP 3.7) How make the system difference?
What to input in EER/SEER/SSEER?
Best Regard
YD