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Windows

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2014 3:49 pm
by bootsam
I hate doing windows in IES. It can take me as long as it takes me to draw the entire model just to sort glazing out. Its a hideous mechanism.

My suggestion is in plan view, snap to start window...drag, snap to finish. With a small dialogue box to input window height and cill height. Simplez. Please please please make this so. I beg thee. Before I break down and weep at the injustice of it all.

Re: Windows

Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:59 am
by ZapBran
hi

the add by height/width/spacing tool kinda does that doesn't it?

Zap

Re: Windows

Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:20 am
by bootsam
Not quite Zap. It requires you to get the exact width, and the snap to position the start is so unreliable as to be useless, if indeed one exists. This is fine if you have only a few windows. If you have a seriously glazed facade and you need the mullions and like to be EXACT, like I do, then the current approach is not very useful. Furthermore the current process is laborious. I can carry out the same process in plan mode for an entire floor using hevacomp in minutes. For an entire floor. I can snap to my mullion, drag to the next mullion and its perfect. Sometimes windows differ greatly between the one before. (Sorry to mention the H word IES, but it works very well even if the rest of the proggie is rubbish by comparison). The process you describe Zap, how do you position it exactly? If you go to surface level, where are the snaps? If you try axo view, where are the snaps?

We use our models as a graphical representation and need them to look like the architects design.

Also, on an energy strategy for example, we may be very early in the design process when things are not in concrete and the design is very fluid. Window schedules may not be available. Flitting between autocad to measure and back to draw is time consuming.

Then you have the point where you wish all your windows to line up with ones above and below. The current schemes are very inflexible. As it is I end up drawing lots of construction lines to get me a snap point to locate a window. Plus the construction lines to trace around the window. Then these construction lines are useless for the next facade, and so on.

A simple process like I have described would greatly enhance the productivity and flexibility of ModelIT. Which if it was ever combines with a moveable UCS system to draw complex shapes (rather than me rotating the room around as I do currently), would assist me to draw anything I please. ModelIT can be very powerful with only a couple of simple add ons. Moveable UCS and a drag and drop window creator.



I do not draw simple representations of a building. I like to draw it as it is.

Re: Windows

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:52 pm
by ZapBran
Fair points all bootsam.
T** also has a nice window tool that IES could learn from.

Re: Windows

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:32 am
by david-ies
We're currently having a think about how we can improve this - it's admittedly in need of some enhancement.
Might not make it for July but should see something soon-ish.
David.

Re: Windows

Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 1:26 pm
by bootsam
Select window dialogue, add sill height and window height. In plan view click to start width of window. Drag to finish point. Voila! Tis easy. Send any fees to me. Then I can pay for the 'other' bloody license for sbem2013.

Re: Windows

Posted: Wed Aug 06, 2014 1:20 pm
by david-ies
Just an note - this feature will be in FP2.

Re: Windows

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:32 pm
by PCully
I saw a video of this feature prototype that David kindly shared with me, I think it's what you want.

PS you don't pay for SBEM in IESVE

Phil